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作者: 獵隼    時間: 2009-11-4 23:30     標題: << 水中魚 >>明仁枝牙鰕虎魚 Stiphodon imperiorientis

這品種是 日本 的"特有種",
現在在香港也有發現!


*此魚早前由其他人先發現

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作者: kingarthur    時間: 2009-11-4 23:53

It's fresh water species?
作者: 獵隼    時間: 2009-11-5 00:09     標題: 回覆 #2 kingarthur 的帖子

收短訊................
作者: 獵隼    時間: 2009-11-5 15:48

在這論壇內  誰會將發現這魚的消息通知"魚獵人"

這人是你嗎?

作者: kingarthur    時間: 2009-11-6 01:26



QUOTE:
原帖由 獵隼 於 2009-11-5 15:48 發表
在這論壇內  誰會將發現這魚的消息通知"魚獵人"

這人是你嗎?

Shame on the one who did it, you should exile yourself from here forever!

[ 本帖最後由 kingarthur 於 2009-11-6 01:28 編輯 ]
作者: 獵隼    時間: 2010-1-18 23:46


在溪澗內這魚又失去了"蹤影"!

是天氣或是人為?

可惜我無法得到答案...............

作者: 獵隼    時間: 2010-9-30 22:17

這尾全長約 6cm

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作者: jasonpoon    時間: 2010-10-11 13:04     標題: 回覆 #7 獵隼 的帖子

A very good information page (but in japanese only).

http://www17.tok2.com/home2/taro ... e/zukan_hayase.html

According to the page, this species occurs in South-western islands of Japan. But the range of distribution is wide so that its endemism should be questioned.

This is a real finding outside of Japan.

It would be interesting for research if any relation to the observed trend of recent re-distribution of tropical peripheral division of freshwater fishes...
作者: 獵隼    時間: 2010-10-11 19:49     標題: 回覆 #8 jasonpoon 的帖子

之前睇過某論壇,台灣也有這魚的蹤跡。
作者: ivanf    時間: 2010-10-14 01:56

估唔到香港都有 係首次發現的嗎?
作者: hongkongensis    時間: 2010-10-14 08:47



QUOTE:
原帖由 獵隼 於 2009-11-5 15:48 發表
在這論壇內  誰會將發現這魚的消息通知"魚獵人"

這人是你嗎?

何方人等 , 有何目的?

[ 本帖最後由 hongkongensis 於 2010-10-14 08:49 編輯 ]
作者: jasonpoon    時間: 2010-11-23 09:41



QUOTE:
原帖由 獵隼 於 2009-11-5 15:48 發表
在這論壇內  誰會將發現這魚的消息通知 "魚獵人" 這人是你嗎?

不要搞得太神經質了!
要作本 EQ 書... <<誰偷走了我的枝牙 Who Stole my Stiphodon>>
作者: hongkongensis    時間: 2010-11-23 10:31



QUOTE:
原帖由 jasonpoon 於 2010-11-23 09:41 發表


不要搞得太神經質了!
要作本 EQ 書... <<誰偷走了我的枝牙 Who Stole my Stiphodon>>

Jason兄, 你見过此魚了嗎?  你知此鱼生態資料嗎? 你做过此魚基本調研嗎?

如有, 願聞其詳, 小弟拜讀.
作者: hongkongensis    時間: 2010-11-23 10:39



QUOTE:
原帖由 hongkongensis 於 2010-11-23 10:31 發表

Jason兄, 你見过此魚了嗎?  你知此鱼生態資料嗎? 你做过此魚基本調研嗎?

如有, 願聞其詳, 小弟拜讀.

現今資訊是發達得不得了, 日本玩家來港搜集蜻蜓蝴蝶, 德国人去大陸捉魚, 大陸人去台灣野探, 已不是新鲜事, 但卻是不断增加中!

我们, 獵隼, xxxx, xxxxx, xxxxxxxxxx, 我...............等等等等, 哪个未被人問或"chok"过地点位置?

我们点解神經質? 好簡單啫, 因为我地知道囉.  我地知道呢D魚有几少, 我地知道呢D魚有几多高手想捉!

[ 本帖最後由 hongkongensis 於 2010-11-23 10:45 編輯 ]
作者: jasonpoon    時間: 2010-11-23 14:17     標題: 回覆 #14 hongkongensis 的帖子

I only concern the distribution of FW fishes in the Oriental Region in large scale in the moment, so I do not need to pin-point the occurance in any particular stream.

Keeping secret the collecting site is only the beginning and in the long term a species's protection need much more than that. The study of the diet and settlement pelagic stage need not be done in any particular stream indeed.
作者: hongkongensis    時間: 2010-11-23 14:29     標題: 回覆 #15 jasonpoon 的帖子

Pls. check pm.
作者: saifish    時間: 2010-11-23 18:39

是不是因為日本的明仁天皇,我記得佢都系研究蝦虎的...
作者: jasonpoon    時間: 2010-11-23 19:10



QUOTE:
原帖由 saifish 於 2010-11-23 18:39 發表
是不是因為日本的明仁天皇,我記得佢都系研究蝦虎的...

Yes, this fish is named to His honor...
作者: 獵隼    時間: 2010-11-23 19:24



QUOTE:
原帖由 jasonpoon 於 2010-11-23 09:41 發表


不要搞得太神經質了!
要作本 EQ 書... <<誰偷走了我的枝牙 Who Stole my Stiphodon>>

別誤會, 2009-11-5 這主題的"所需閱讀權限"是很高的,你應該還未知有這魚的記錄。
作者: jasonpoon    時間: 2010-11-24 10:36



QUOTE:
原帖由 獵隼 於 2010-11-23 19:24 發表
別誤會, 2009-11-5 這主題的"所需閱讀權限"是很高的,你應該還未知有這魚的記錄。

I never claim knowledge of this fish in HK and I only learn from what has been made available to me. Actually I am concerning with the macro-distribution of fishes, and sicydiines are only a small part of this, in the Oriental Region. I never quoted anything beyond what has been published and available and I gave due credit. This the way science is doing.

The centre of distribution of all sicydiines is tropical S.E. Pacific, indeed why I refer this to Japanese fish watchers is because they already know much better about ths group fish, not only this species but the whole clade, not only in taxonomy but also ecology, behaviour and breeding physiology.

As I have mentioned to honkongensis, if any fish hunter is good enough, whether the information is available will make no difference to their collection, if they want to. I also mentioned that by making legislation may contribute to the "rarity effect". And that one should worry more for local hunters as the Japanese can get these fishes much more easily in Okinawa islands.

The actual area needing priority study of these fishes are actually NOT the adult phase which you guys so priced. It is the pelagic phase in the open ocean, and the location is not S.China for that matter.

One must grow out of the "stamp collector" stage in their natural history if they want to really understand the right way of doing science.
作者: 獵隼    時間: 2010-11-24 19:23     標題: Reply #20 jasonpoon's post

我唔知人地pm比你同你講左D乜,我在這次事件只回答了人地 :  "他無問過我"啫,我無向人講過D乜。如果人地說乜,這只是人地的個人答案,唔代表是我的答案。

我一開就是這樣想........."為免事情惡化","為免事情惡化"唔係指條魚,我係指"人事"這方向,正如這刻.........事情已開始惡化。

[ Last edited by  獵隼 at 2010-11-24 19:27 ]
作者: jasonpoon    時間: 2010-11-25 11:37



QUOTE:
原帖由 獵隼 於 2010-11-24 19:23 發表
我唔知人地pm比你同你講左D乜,我在這次事件只回答了人地 :  "他無問過我"啫,我無向人講過D乜。如果人地說乜,這只是人地的個人答案,唔代表是我的答案。
我一開就是這樣想........."為免事情惡化"," ...

Take it easy, all along are discussions and nothing personal. I only wish to see more from you guys as young fish watchers / researchers, and I can only offer some thinking / suggestions.

Actually you guys make me feel many years younger as as that time few young people border to be a naturalist and care about our wildlife. The HK Natural History Society then had weekly outings but I was often the 2 or 3 Chinese who speaks poor English... hahaha
作者: kinganswer    時間: 2010-12-2 12:12

好东西.不错
作者: cfai    時間: 2011-10-3 20:32

天南地北雙飛俠!

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作者: alex07055    時間: 2011-10-4 17:42

好耐無見枝牙了...
早幾年見過一次...
e+..我行10條澗9條都無枝牙..
以前見果d成隻藍色閃光感遊難遊去,好正
作者: cfai    時間: 2013-3-12 18:06

2012年, 三王來朝, 可惜只是曇花一現.

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作者: cfai    時間: 2013-3-22 19:36

2012 年 的第四尾.

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